Update – DIY HP/Agilent 53131A 010 High Stability Timebase Option PCB’s Available

Following on from the project to build a DIY OCXO upgrade option for my HP/Agilent 53131A Frequency Counter I had a large number of requests for me to make the PCB’s available so others can built there own. I now have some PCB’s and are making them available for sale. I will also be making some fully assembled and tested/verified boards including an OCXO, ready-made cable and mounting stand-off’s, there will only be a limited number of these so if you are interested, let me know, first come first serve and when they are gone they are gone.

Now, someone made a comment on hackaday stating that the reason why these OCXO’s are on e-bay is because they are no good. Well I can understand why one could draw that conclusion but having now played with in access of 50 of these OCXO’s I can tell you that they all pretty much violently agree with each other and they also agree with the Rubidium Frequency Standard I have, so given they are from different sources and all free-running I am pretty comfortable they are good and usable quality devices. I read a lot on the net about “burn in time” and the general consensus seems to be, the longer you age and heat a crystal oscillator the more stable (in terms of drift) it becomes. Now I don’t know how true that is, but if it is true, then by definition, using recovered OCXO’s must actually be a good thing. Of course if you feel the need to pay a couple of hundred dollars for a new OCXO then you can of course do that – but I am pretty sure that it does NOT guarantee you any better performance, it just buys you the right to get compensated if you happen to find it does not meet the performance specifications quoted by the manufacturer and it might make you feel a little more confident. Anyway I guess the results speak for themselves and for a home lab these OCXO’s are more than good enough I think.

Here is a short video showing the various configurations built and working as well as a quick overview of the PCB its self and the configuration options.

The Schematic

OCXO Rev 1F

The PCB

This is the revision “1F” board. When I designed the board, I picked a few of the OCXO types that are available on the second-hand (salvaged) market and designed it to accommodate these. My original plan was to support four types of OCXO, the Oscilloquartz 8663-XS that I used in my own counter, a Datum 105243-002, and Isotemp OCXO-131 and a Trimble 34310-T(2). However, when I laid the board out I did not have the Trimble 34310-T(2) device to hand and made a (wrong) assumption about the footprint – which is a bad schoolboy error I know – the upshot being that while this board has a footprint and markings for the Trimble 34310-T(2) it does not fit, the pins are about 1mm out and therefore the board IS NOT suitable for that particular device. It is feasible to drill holes, the pads are just about big enough but assuming there is some demand for these boards I will order a second batch with the footprint corrected.

|OCXOBoard-1f

The following OCXO’s are known (and shown in the video) to work. Any others might work but thats up to you to verify 🙂

  • Oscilloquartz 8663-XS
  • Isotemp OCXO131-100
  • Isotemp OCXO131-191
  • Datum 105243-002

Oscilloquartz 8663-XS

This is the first OCXO I used, its more expensive than most and seems good quality and very precise. It works off of 12v and provides a nice clean sine wave output. The voltage control input works on the 0-10V range. I could not find any data on the XS version so I don’t know what its performance specifications are. I have included a download for this device but it does not cover the XS version specifically. The data sheet states that this device requires 0-10v for the frequency control, and testing seems to bear this out too. However, to get the counter to calibrate properly I selected the 0-5v range on the DAC.

Oscilloquartz  OCXO8663-pins

IMG_6182

Datum 105243-002

This was another OCXO that I included on the board for Andy (who built the first 3Ghz pre-scaller option board), again a nice device but its specified to work on 24V and the Oven and Oscillator have separate power connections. This is the only OCXO that has a built in trim pot which allows you to set the window for the voltage control range. Although this device is specified to run at 24V, I tested its operation at 12V and it works perfectly. I did put a four-pin plug onto the board to allow you to give it a separate 24V supply but it really does not need it. I do not have any data sheet for this device but it outputs a square wave which is not as nice as having a sine wave on the output – but for this application it does not matter at all. The Frequency control input on this device is very sensitive and while it works without problem at +/-10v its centred around 2V and 0-5v works just fine.

IMG_6161  OCXO-DATUM-pins copy

IMG_6181

Isotemp OCXO131-1xx

This is a small, compact device and comes in two variants, the OCXO131-191 which is a 12V version and the OCXO131-100 which is a 5V version, and while both share the same PCB footprint and pinouts the case for the 5v variant is taller at 18mm high where as the 12v version is a compact 11mm high. These also provide a square wave output. Both versions of the device require 0-5v on the frequency control input although to get the counter to properly calibrate I had to configure it for the +/-5V option.

Isotemp-ocxos  OCXO131-pins

IMG_6180

Kit of Parts

Some people asked me about providing a kit of parts. I am not really geared up to do that in a time-efficient way so apart from the bare PCB, I will not be able to provide individual parts or components.

Fully Built and Tested Option

I am planning to have a limited number of these option boards fully built and tested with all the components and the OCXO pre-installed as well as a suitable cable and mounting stand-off’s, ready to install and use in your counter 531xx HP counter. I do not have an exact cost for these as I still have to source some of the components but they are likely to be be in the £75 to £95 range. I will post an update when I have these available which should be in about 2-3 weeks time.

UPDATE: I now have some fully assembled and tested boards complete with cable and mounting parts needed for a simple plug-and-play 53100 series counter upgrade. (the boards will be black, the board shown in the photo was as a result of a screw-up by the PCB supplier)

_MG_9150

_MG_9141

Bill of Materials

RefDes Part No Notes
C1, C2, C4, C6, C7, C8, C10, C11 100nF 0805 SMD Jellybean part
C12 1uF 0805 SMD Jellybean part – Could probably use 100nF with no problem
C3, C5, C9 47uF 16v Electrolytic. Farnell Part No: 197-3306
J2 IDC2X8M Farnell Part No: 231-0066
L1, L2, L5 100uH Farnell Part No: 935-8056
L3, L4 1uH Farnell Part No: 221-5638
R1, R2 100R 0805 SMD Jellybean part
R3, R4 220R 0805 SMD Jellybean part
R8 220R 0805 SMD Jellybean part – This is not needed unless you want to mess with the comparator bias
U1 LM361M Very fast differential comparator
U4 ADR4550 You can use a REF02 or numerous other 5V reference parts here, the pinout is pretty standard
U5 AD7243AR This is the most expensive and hard to get part

Bare PCB’s Available

UPDATE: After my first trip to the post office today I have had to amend the pricing because of the outrageous postal charges, I have been told that I cannot send something thats not made of paper as a letter! that means for my friends outside of the UK the postage is more expensive, sorry about that. The good news is, the postage does not go up with the number of boards. I hope you understand.

UK Orders

For the sake of simplicity I have opted for a flat price of £10 each, which includes postage in the UK. If you want more than two boards please contact me directly via e-mail because the weight starts to impact postage.

 1 x HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS OCXO Option Bare PCB Rev 1F inc. Postage £10
 2 x HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS OCXO Option Bare PCB’s Rev 1F inc. Postage £20
 HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS Rev 1G Fully Built and Tested with Trimble 34310-T OCXO, Cable and Mounting Kit £95.00 + £10.00 P&P

Non-UK Orders

If you are outside of the UK it costs me £3.50 for a small parcel so I have opted for a flat price of £9 for each board – but postage is on top of that. If you want more than three boards please contact me directly via e-mail.

 1 x HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS OCXO Option Bare PCB Rev 1F £12.50
 2 x HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS OCXO Option Bare PCB’s Rev 1F £21.50
 HP/Agilent 53131A-010/GS Rev 1G Fully Built and Tested with Trimble 34310-T OCXO, Cable and Mounting Kit £95.00 + £15 shipping (tracked and signed for)

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140 thoughts on “Update – DIY HP/Agilent 53131A 010 High Stability Timebase Option PCB’s Available

  1. I’ve used a few C-MAC branded OCXO’s purchased from eBay and found those to be ok too, a few of them are very slightly off the 10MHz value however a slight tweak via the VFC pin puts that in order.

    cheers

    John (youtube – orbiter8)

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  3. Gerry, I would be interested in buying two (2) assembled boards. I have a few of the Oscilloquartz 8663 xs oscillators already. So, I could buy the boards assembled and with cables, but without the oscillators, if that would leave some oscillators for others. Jim N1JR

    • Hi Jim, I was planning to provide the OCXO’s too, I have a bid in for a number of OCXO’s and have just about enough parts to build the boards, I will see how it goes, if I can provide you with boards minus the OCXO’s I will. Gerry

  4. Add me to the list for the assembled version Gerry….too many other projects to work on in the queue! Will check out eBay to get a OCXO in anticipation of the populated board (or will you be including it?).

    Dino

    • Hi Dino,

      I will be providing the OCXO on the assembled boards. If I am to get this sort of thing assembled I want to male sure each item works in totality so I don;t have to deal with returns of part completed boards. For simplicity if I provide the whole thing assembled I know that it works and calibrates properly.

      Gerry

  5. Gerry,
    If you need to supply the “built” boards with oscillators, I will be glad to buy two of them with your oscillators (instead of using mine). So, dealer’s choice. (i thought that using my 8663-XS units might be of help to you and others.) Jim, N1JR

  6. Gerry, you might add a BOM with Digikey part numbers or something, just to make it simpler for some to get the correct SMT parts.

  7. Just ordered a bare board (transaction ID for this payment is: 6T8982723G793422U). Are there any hard to find parts that I will have trouble sourcing here in the USA? If so, have you considered offering those parts at extra cost?

    Thanks.

    • Hi John, all the parts are available from the likes of Digikey, Newark etc..so should not be a problem. I am not really geared up to offer individual parts, I want to avoid the best I can becoming a logistics operator 🙂 I am waiting for some cardboard envelopes to arrive, should be here in the next couple of days, once I have them I will post the board. Gerry

  8. Hi Gerry
    Thanks for the good word, because is not it simple
    One.
    Service manual HP (Agilent) is a joke.
    On each side of something else….
    See pages 8, 20, 39, numbering pin connector J2 on each side of the other :)…
    Two.
    The divisor to 3 GHz by 128
    But it’s 12 GHz should be 512, the meter detects this by J2-9 J2-10 (I think)
    and …
    Apply so different divider instead HMC394 will use uPB1505. This is a divide by 64
    So the divider (I assume input frequency 12 GHz) HMC363 (/ 8) will be 1.5 GHz, then the divider uPB1505 (/ 64) is the frequency of 23 .. MHz

  9. Hi Gerry,

    Thanks for the good work.

    Having now got both the PCB and the OCXO, I really ought to build it up.

    Is there a BOM anywhere ?

    • Hi John, no not at all, if you ordered a board before I changed the price I will honour that, all boards are sent out now so if you have not received it yet you should do very soon. Gerry

    • Thanks for the pointer. I have a Trimble GPSDO which I need to do a video on. I have been thinking about a Rubidium Disciplined OCXO to iron out the strange frequency jumping the RFS seems to put out too. Gerry

    • Hi Jim, I have all the parts and boards now, I will be building one up and testing it today so assuming there are no issues I should be able to confirm. They will be £80 (excluding postage) complete and tested, provided with a ready installed Trimble 34310-T OCXO. Gerry

  10. Another one up and running, worked great on my 53132A. Used the Oscilloquartz 8663-XS, mine failed cal as well on 0-10v, however 0-5v worked great.

    Thanks again Gerry,

    Andy

  11. Gerry, the two assembled boards arrived in good condition. I will install them later today. One question: the counters have “standard” TB already. Is there some standard TB cable or some other connection which I should “disconnect” when installing the High Stability TB? (I haven’t opened up the units yet, so I apologize if the answer is obvious.)

    Jim

    • Hi Jim,
      Great news, thanks for letting me know. You do not need to worry about the internal timebase, that is automatically disabled when the counter detects the external timebase.
      Gerry

  12. This option works very well
    I used OCXO DATUM.
    Deviation after about 1 hour does not exceed 0.020 Hz to 10 MHz.
    Thanks
    Gerry
    Good Job 🙂

  13. Would it be possible to take the 10Mhz output and change the pulse width to about = 100 nsec and boost the voltage to 150V – 220V range using a timer and a coil ??
    any advice or ideas are welcome… thankyou

  14. Gerry, Time bases received and one installed. It is working fine. Thank you for a great product. By the way, do you know if your friend Andy going to offer for sale the 3 GHz Third Channel that you made the video about? Jim Robbins

    • Hi Jim,

      Glad you got them ok, nice to hear they are working for you. Its a really great mod for them counters. I am pretty sure Andy is not intending to make any of the 3Ghz boards. My plan was to do a board layout and get some PCB’s made but thats on the back burner at the moment due to other commitments.

      Gerry

    • Sorry – I won’t be making any 3Ghz boards – I just have too many other commitments.
      Gerry – if you want you can publish the design files ( if you no longer have them – mail me and I can re-send ).

      • Hi Andy,

        Yes I still have the design files. My only concern with publishing the design is the issue with the connector – someone could *NOT* read the commentary and plug the thing in and damage their counter. I should probably re-layout the board or at least fix the connector so that its safer to make the boards.

        Hope you got to the end of your building issues.

        Gerry

        • When I get back in the country – I will send the updated design files with the corrected connector. The updated files have not yet been sent for production – so another warning would be needed 🙂
          As for the building – that always turns into more work than planned (and the day job gets in the way)

          • Hi Andy,

            Ok that would be great. Actually after I posted the comment I thought about it, I can probably make some edits myself. I now have an original 3Ghz so I can work out the exact footprint and have a go in KiCad. I have been real busy at work of late too, exciting but all consuming too..

            Gerry

  15. Here is the updated project
    http://www.rflab.pl/projekty/DIVIDER12GHZ/DIV12GHZ.htm
    Current status of the project:
    PCB was soldered, I made the first tests.
    Divider system works very well up to 4.4 GHz, the input sensitivity is better than -40 dBm. (I have not tested the range of 4.4 – 10 GHz)
    There is a problem with frequencies above 10 GHz, the system does not work. Perhaps the reason lies in the resonances of the power supply (DC block) integrated circuits VMMK.
    And
    Currently, plans to replace the diode HSMS (Cf = 0.2pF) for MACOM MADS0013171500AG (Cf = 0.045 pF!), And apply any resistors type microwave (Vishay)
    In addition, we are working on redesigning the power amplifiers VMMK. Supply system filter must have a minimum inductance and capacitance.
    For example, the parasitic inductance and capacity of the value of 0.3pF and 0.4 nH! creates a series resonant circuit with a frequency of 10-12 GHz (effectively contains the correct signal)

  16. Hi guys.
    Recent studies divider,
    http://www.rflab.pl/projekty/DIVIDER12GHZ/DIV12GHZ.htm
    showed that:
    In the range:
    – from 200 MHz to 4.5 GHz sensitivity of – 50 dBm
    – 4.5 GHz – 5 GHz, -45 dBm sensitivity
    – 5 GHz – 6 GHz, sensitivity -40 dBm
    – 6 GHz – 7 GHz, sensitivity-35 dBm
    – 7GHz – 8 GHz, sensitivity -30dBm to -25 dBm
    Not bad 🙂 As to the first such project “divider”
    Now I have a new concept 🙂 divider up to 26 GHz 🙂
    http://www.rflab.pl/projekty/DIVIDER26GHZ/divder%20up%20to%2026%20GHz.htm
    Currently, work on using the ADF5002

  17. Hi
    The divider operates in a wide frequency range 4 – 26 GHz.
    According to the Analog Devices chip operates from 4-18 GHz
    However, the datasheet (page 6) shows that it should work properly in the field of 2-2.5 GHz (sensitivity – 10 dBm) to nearly 24 GHz (-10 dBm), 25 GHz (-5 dBm) 26 GHz ( 0 dBm)
    Probably the company AD limited to 18 GHz specification in connection with the transmitted signal phase change (the system is applicable in the synthesis and stabilization systems-frequency)
    ADF chip is also much cheaper than the HMC447 ADF – 18 $, HMC -50 $
    The divider is designed for radio amateurs working in the microwave range, but not only 🙂

  18. Hi Gerry,

    do you know if this board will work on a old HP 53181A?
    I’ve got one of this today early, and not had time to search for the info. I saw your videos about this project, but if I remember, you have a 53131A.

    Thanks.

      • Hi Gerry,

        how much would cost to send a fully mounted and tested board to Brazil? what info do you need to get the costs?

        Thanks

        • Hi Mario,

          A fully constructed and tested board including a Trimble 34310-T OCXO module is GBP £80 – and shipping to Brazil (RoyalMail Air Mail signed for delivery) is GBP £16, so in total £96 – hope that helps.

          Gerry

  19. Hello Gerry,
    Very impressive work you’ve done with the OCXO’s for the Agilent 53131A series. I was wondering if you know if the kit would be plug & play compatible with the newer replacement model 53210A (the particular unit that I have).
    Thank you,
    Scott

    • Hi Scott,

      Thanks for the feedback. The answer to your question is I don’t know, I don’t have access to one to investigate and the schematics for the 53210A device do not seem to be available anywhere. I would guess they are not compatible though…

      Gerry

      • Hello Gerry,
        Thanks for the prompt response and info. Likewise, I don’t have access to the schematics so unfortunately I can’t help share any info in that regard. It’s interesting to note that there’s only one OCXO option (010 Ultra) with the new series, whereas the previous generation had the three options (001 Medium, 010 High, 012 Ultra) beyond the standard TCXO. If I should decide at some time in the future to break the seal and enter the until I’ll share what I can find out. Thanks again, and all the best.
        Scott

        • Hi Scott,

          Thanks for the info, I would be interested to find out more information, would be keen to know if its the same interface, although I doubt it is. I imagine the reason for only having one high stab option nowdays is there is no real cost differential, most OCXO’s are already very good nowdays…

          Gerry

  20. I Gerry,
    Just installed in my 53181a, took about 15 minutes to have the unit up and running. All I can say remarkable job!
    This option 010 is great!
    Please let me know when Pcb for option 030 will be available.
    Thank you again.

  21. board (revision G) also works fine with Morion MV89 OCXO. Voltage control had to be jumpered to -5/+5V (leftmost jumper, jumpers are no longer labeled)
    Goetz

  22. Hi Gerry,
    Are there any news about the opt. 030, boards, schematic / BOM or assembled?
    If there is or would be later maybe you can send one to Dave (EEVblog) for him to do an review.
    There is one video from TheSignalPath Blog on YouTube reviewing one opt. 030 from Poland.
    I’m waiting for an good one to put on my 53181.

    Thanks.

    • Hi Nuno,
      I actually bought one of the boards from Poland and believe it or not I can’t find it!!! I am almost 100% sure it arrived in the post but biggered if I can find it anywhere – I think that signals a spring clean of the lab is called for…. I have not done anything further with the board that Andy designed, I really need to get to that, its been a long time now.

      Gerry

    • Hi Mitko,

      I am sorry, I do not have one of those and dont know anything about them so cant be specific. Most of these OCXO’s tend to be the same so it can almost certainly be made to work

      Gerry

  23. Hi, Thanks for the design. Could you spec the caps. Digikey can drown you in options when it comes to SMD caps.

    Thanks

    • Hi Michael,
      The spec of the caps are not that important to the design or accuracy of the unit, X5R on the 0.1uF they are just simple de-coupling, I will need to look the specific part numbers for the electrolytic, although the ones I fitted we marginally oversized for the footprint I used making soldering more challenging.
      Gerry

  24. Hi,
    Thanks for the design. Are 16V rated caps enough for the small 0805 parts? How often are you able to get to the post office to ship these out? I ordered two.
    Thanks!

  25. Hi, I received the boards today. They look great.

    Does the crystal need to be spaced away from the board to prevent the soldering pads from shorting against the grounded case?

    For a the occliloquartz, does the 12V setting need to be jumpered by shorting the top two holes of the voltage setting next to the 16 pin connector?

    For a typical board, should R8 be left completely out?

    Thanks!

    • Hi,

      Glad you like them.

      Yes I generally solder them wedging a couple of credit cards in the sides, then remove after soldering, that leaves a nice workable gap

      You do not need any jumper for the oscilloquartz oscilator, just fit it

      You do not need R8, leave it out and it will be fine

      Good luck with the mod

      Gerry

  26. Just purchased an HP-53181A counter. Will your high stability circuit boards work in that counter and do you still have some bare or built boards left?

    How is your home built programmable power supply project coming along, did you finish it. I like your videos, thanks for taking the time to make and post them.

    Gary

    • Hi Gary,

      Yes I still have some bare boards and fully built/tested units. Have recently been able to compare the boards I have built with the original board for these counters and I am dead pleased that the Trimble OCXO’s I am using are much better performers than the Isotemp fitted to the original, I plan to make a short video to show the difference because its quite noticeable. Anyway, as I said I have both so feel free to order what you would like. Thank you for you feedback on the videos, I appreciate, and more are coming I promise.

      Gerry

  27. I ordered one of your fully built HP53131A, 53132A and 53181A time bases today. I am unsure if the price included shipping, if not send me the amount you need via email and how to pay you for it.

    I received my HP-53181A yesterday, already ordered the 3GHz prescaler for Poland as the Signalpath.com tested it and it seemed to work great. Also purchased a few weeks ago and modified one of the Video Distribution amps like yours but am feeding it with my Trimble Thunderbolt, it works great. Had to stack 2 100 ohm resistors like you did, these 62 year old eyes had a bit of a time seeing them and not proud of the solder joints but I measured every one to the center of the op-amp and all 18 were 50 ohms.

    • Hi Gary,

      Thanks for the order, I need to fix an OCXO and soak test so I wont ship until the end of the week, hope thats ok. I have one of the 3Ghz pre-scalers from Poland also, build quality seems good – I just seem to have misplaced it, my lab is a mess 🙁

      Gerry

  28. Hi Gerry,
    I enjoyed your OXCO Videos.
    I just purchased an HP 53131A and would like to buy one of your assembled HP/Agilent 53131A-010 OCXO Option boards for it.

    Do you still have some for sale ?
    Which OXCO is on the current boards ?
    What is your current price shipped to OH, USA 44026 ?
    Do you accept Paypal ?

    Please advise.
    Regards, Ken

    • Hi Ken,

      Thank you for the feedback. Yes I have some available, the OCXO’s are Trimble 34310-T’s, they are actually very good and very stable, better than the HP original OCXO, I have sold many of these now with no complaints at all. I always soak test each one for 24 hours and make sure the cal range is good etc. Price is £80, postage tracked and signed to the US is £15, and yes I accept Paypal, you can use the buy buttons on the blog page.

      Thanks for your interest

      Gerry

  29. Hi Gerry
    I would like to purchase one of yourassembled ocxo’s for my HP53131 counter.. If they are still available, could you advise the total cost to send to Christchurch New Zealand.
    once I know the cost I will pay with paypal. Many thanks.

    Regards,

    Paul Dixon

    • Hi Paul,

      thanks for your interest. Yes I still have some available, postage to NZ would be £10 Royal Mail Air Mail, or £15 Royal Mail Tracked and Signed, I would suggest the later as there is some guarantee of delivery and item will be insured.

      Please do be aware though I am current out of the country so will not be able to ship until the week of the 17th of August

      Regards

      Gerry

  30. Hello,
    I am from the US and am interested in possibly a full kit if not then just a board.
    Do you still have them available and if so what is your current shipping to the USA?

    Thank you
    Sandra

    • Hi Sandra,

      I have both bare boards and fully assembled and tested boards available. A bare board is £10, shipping to the US is £3. A fully assembled and tested board with cable and mounting parts is £80, shipping to the use Royal Mail tracked and signed for is £15. If you do order please be aware that I am unable to ship until the week of the 17th of August.

      Thank you for your interest.

      Gerry

  31. Wanted to thank you Gerry, I’ve gotten your Opt 010 Board installed and calibrated and now I’ve got a much nicer counter. You’ve been great to work with and incredibly responsive to questions. Definitely recommend you to anyone looking to upgrade their 53131A/53132A to a better time source. I’m now showing a pretty consistent 1.7ms off from my Rb source.

  32. Hi!
    You had stated earlier that the initial batch of PCB’s had some misaligned holes. Has that been resolved and are the current batch of PCB’s come with properly aligned holes for the various OCXO’s with which it is compatible? I still haven’t decided on the brand/make of OCXO I’ll use, hence this question.
    Great work and thanks!

    • Hi,

      The boards I have are still the Rev 1f boards which have the misaligned holes for Trimble 34310-T as I said in the video. I did have a quantity of Rev 1G boards made which corrects that problem, and I had some made, but with regret these all got turned into complete pre-built units using 34310-T’s because I managed to secure a batch of them and the demand for the fully tested and assembled boards was so high. So as it stands now I only have Rev 1f bare boards available. The pads for the OCXO’s are quite big so it is possible with some careful hacking to re-drill the Rev 1f board and fit a 34310-T but that will take some time and care to achieve. Hope that helps.

      Gerry

  33. Hi Gerry,

    Very nice job on the timebase !

    I’m curious if, with your board, the 53132A calibration completes with some residual offset, or “on target”?

    Some other 3rd party boards exhibit this and I think it is either a limitation of the DAC (same as Agilent used, however), the reference voltage, or too wide a tuning voltage range into the OCXO.

    Sorry if this has been covered already. Too much work and not enough time to play and read !

    Dennis

    • Hi Dennis,

      I made a point of using a low tempco voltage reference IC to minimize drift. To the best of my ability at home using my Rbs I can consistently recalibrate a counter down to 5/100ths of 1Hz at 10Mhz which is pretty decent, I can also recover to that after a cooldown and warmup cycle consistently and have been able to for the last two years. I have an original Medium stability Agilent option board which is actually not as stable as the board I have been making, I think the long term burn-in and aging of the recycled 34310-T’s actually works in our favour. I have sold a significant number of these and have had nothing but positive and enthusiastic feedback so I think they work quite well all things considered.

      Hope that helps.

      Gerry

  34. Hi Gerry,
    I’m interested in your PCB, but I will use another OCXO. Please be so kind to send me mounting hole dimensions to check for placing my OCXO on your board.
    Best regards,
    Christian

    • Hi Cristian,
      I don’t have the actual measurements to hand. You can see the OCXO’s that fit on the page and the data sheets are easily available on line, you can get the exact pin layout/dimensions from there. Hope that helps
      Gerry

  35. Hi Gerry,
    I received the complete OCXO-board yesterday and installed it today. Installation was very easy, calibration (after reading the manual) too. The Trimble OCXO on my board looks a bit like the russian MV89A (Morion), same size, same footprint and also very stable. Alltogether your board is a good deal and makes my counter more valuable.
    best regards,
    Joerg

  36. Hi Gerry,

    I would like to put a Trimble 65256 ocxo on your adapter board. The device starts with nearly
    1.8A for a couple of seconds before dropping down to 300 mA.
    Do you have any experience if the HP 53131A can handle that current peak or should I pick
    another ocxo?

    Best regards,
    Stephen

    • Hi Stephen,
      I have not really tried to measure it to be honest, the OCXO’s I use draw about 800mA when cold dropping to around 80mA when running at temperature. The best thing to do would be to try it with a dummy load on the PSU’s 12v line and see what the thermals look like. 1.8A does sound quite high though.
      Gerry

  37. Hello Gerry ok possibility 8663-XS Oscilloquartz Fully Built and Tested , Cable and Mounting Kit for France
    can you give me the price of the complete package with shipping France

    thank you

    • Hi,
      I am afraid I only have these built and tested with the Trimble 34310-T double oven OCXO module. They are very good oscillators have sold many of them now and everyone is very happy with them. Cost is £80 + £12 shipping (tracked and signed via Royal Mail).
      Gerry

  38. Hello Gerry very good achievement, I received in France, impecable, thank you for your professionalism and seriousness

    thank you very much

  39. Thanks for sending out the PCB promptly. I can confirm that part number “OX200-SC-010.0M” made by Connor-Winfield works and fits in the space for the Isotemp one. Its currently available (April 2016) at Digikey, code CW789-ND. It runs on 12V and needs the 0-5V trim range.

  40. Hello,
    If you have any completed boards left, I’d like to buy 2 with install kit etc. plus shipping to the US West Coast.

    As soon as we figure out shipping, I’ll send the total via paypal.
    Thanks,
    Greg

    • Hi John,
      Yes the option board will work with the 53132A counter. The shipping RoyalMail Tracked and Signed to the US is £15, lead time for the unit is two weeks, I have some in the works at the moment so let me know if you want one and I will make sure I have one available for you
      Gerry

  41. Gerry,

    My assembled board arrived well packed (including ribbon cable and standoffs) and quickly. It installed simply (puzzle for a few seconds as I hadn’t realized it installs on the frame at the side opposite to the connectors), and calibrated as expected (needed to do that again as I did it before the osc had stabilized).

    Thanks

  42. I have calibrated my OCXO in a 53132A against a Rubidium oscillator which was itself calibrated against a 1pps GPS signal.

    The short term stability of the Trimble you use seems to be very good (measuring the Rubidium with 3s gate time gives STDEV ~ 0.2 mHz), compared to measuring a used Isotemp (~ 1.2 mHz), and a new CTS OCXO at ~ 1.4 mHz).

    (those are millihertz !)

    • Hi John,

      Thanks for the feedback, yes the OCXO’s are really stable, I test each one before I ship it, I think being second hand means they have had a 15 year burn-in which I think helps a lot with short term stability. Glad you like the option, thanks for the order once again
      Gerry

  43. Hi Gerry,
    I purchased a OXCO kit from e-bay before I saw your site!!! It is a BG7TBL 2014-09-16 and it has a Trimble 49422-CR oscillator on it. After mounting and going through the cal steps the Agilent 53132A counter does not recognize the OXCO and I can not get to the calibration step.
    I can adjust the internal RP1 to get to about 0.005Hz drift.
    Any ideeas?
    Thank you kindly,
    Andrei

    • Hi Andrei,
      I expect its one of the ones that are being sold on ebay that do not have the electronics on board to deal with front panel calibration, I think its a poor alternative to my board 🙁

      There is probably a pot on it (you mention RP1) for you to adjust with a screwdriver to set the frequency instead of using the front panel cal options.
      Gerry

  44. Hi Gerry,
    It does have the electronics on the PCB but not all.
    I did adjust the RP1 to get the 0,005 Hz drift but the counter does not recognize the OCXO.
    I would like to purchase a kit from you.
    Please advise me on price( with shipping) and availability.
    Thank you,
    Andrei

    • Hi Andrei,
      Thanks, you can purchase from this page, there is a PayPal button. Lead time is 5 days as I need to select, install and soak test an OCXO (I do this JIT for sales of these).
      Gerry

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