Is .NET the holy grail of software development in the modern age!! (Part 2)

I must first open this post by apologising for the long delay in my follow up to part one. It was pointed out to me by my social networks Kung Fu  practitioner (you know who you are Chris 😉  that leaving my blog for so long was signifying it’s death.  I don’t want to kill my blog just yet so I will do what I can to resurrect it, for those folk that know me probably know that I have a lot to say!

Back to the follow-up then – is .NET the right technology stack to build a professional, packaged, off the shelf software application with?

As with most things in software the answer is not clear cut.  There is no doubt that its possible to build a high quality windows desktop application using .NET, especially with the later versions of the .NET libraries, WPF being a great example.  So if one was to build a desktop application targeted at Windows then IMHO there is not much to choose from that is better.  It is worth remembering with .NET in this context; you must remember that the .NET runtime versions, components and myriad of service packs and OS hot fixes that you are bombarded with must be part of your ongoing application support strategy because unlike compiled languages like C++ where you can almost dictate and lock down specific library versions which remain by-and-large static. With .NET though, updates to runtime components can change things in the execution of your applications after your release which can cause new problems or changes in behaviour that did not exist when you ran your product through the QA cycle as part of you releasing it.

For me though, the much bigger problem is when client/server applications are developed.  Take a typical business application which has some kind of presentation (desktop or browser) application, business logic which is typically server-side logic accessible to the presentation layer via some sort of web services API and a back-end SQL database sitting behind the business logic.  With .NET and Microsoft’s development environment you can build all three tiers in a simple, easy, point and click, highly integrated way inside a single IDE. It’s easy, really easy to create a UI, create some web services, connect to a database, create code objects to serialise/deserialize data to/from the database all in a way that follows some idealistic design patterns and create an initial application quickly.  What’s wrong with this you may ask, isn’t that what every product sponsor wants – fast development, good standard design patterns and a product on time, hell yes please, I would have them all day but… I can’t tell you how many projects I have seen that follow this route only to find that the initial product put out in the field is slow, unreliable, full of bugs and basically unsupportable – often to the total surprise of the team that created the product in the first place.

So what goes wrong so?  Well, its first worth mentioning that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the .NET technology, the problem is with the expectatiation set by the “.NET dream” and the way in which .NET is used.  Shame on Microsoft for setting such a vivid dream of perfection, but shame of the developers and architects for believing it!   Just because you can create a web service with two clicks does not mean that is the “right” way to create your particular web service, that’s just the “easy” way to create your web service and that’s the problem – two clicks and the project has a new web service so makes progress fast.   Many application developers use the easy tools to create their skeleton but then spend ten times more developer hours trying to make the code created by the easy button fit their requirement.  The result is bloated code that is hard to understand and often ends up being a compromise on the original design intent; how many times have I seen software designs change just to fit the specific IDE, toolkit or individual developer’s idealism.  The other problem with such a highly integrated development environment is there is often an illusion that code will be better because the framework takes care of evils like pointers, memory management and so on.  Microsoft have done such a fantastic job at branding the “Managed code” idea, but this is an ideal aimed at managers who can now hire developers that are often less skilled than their lower level developer counterparts and the code created will be less buggy because the managed environment takes care of it for them.  When I hear “managed code” I think RCBPP or “Runtime Compensation for Bad Programming Practices”, which by the way is perfectly fine for applications that are not expected to be fast and scalable in a green-friendly way.  Bad programming practice should not be compensated for at runtime by executing CPU cycles each time the code must run, it should be ironed out at design time so the code can run many times faster for the same CPU cycles.

.NET developers please take note – just because .NET has a garbage collection engine within its “managed code” environment, this is not an instruction for you to absolve yourself of memory management and other responsible coding practices in your design. .NET code is just as susceptible to performance issues, memory fragmentation, race conditions and other serious runtime conditions that make applications perform either badly or in an unreliable way.

Things get even worse at the database design stage where the data model is defined. At this stage there is all too often an over abundance of triggers and stored procedures that actually go way beyond the data model and impose much of the business logic for the application.  A well designed three-tier architecture should be loosely coupled at each layer, the integration point should be at the web services API, not the database so putting application logic in the database is madness, and actually demonstrates a poor overall application design with too much architectural input being taken form the DBA/Data Architect.  None the less it happens, and much more than it ever should.  The database vendors love it because most features that one would use triggers and SP’s for are not standard; they are almost unique in behaviour to each vendor’s database system thus often tying the application to that database developer.  Developers please note – its only the database vendors that strongly advocate for putting application logic into the data model; for the rest of us the data level logic should be there to perform data related tasks only – if you have the need to call a stored procedure to perform some application logic or the integrity of your application logic depends on the database performing some functions through database logic then review your design – because its probably wrong.

Another problem I have with .NET is the seemingly defacto standard amongst some of the .NET developers I have come across seem to  have a belief that a “Web Service” is something that you create in the Visual Studio IDE presented as SOAP (Java folk, you are guilty of this too I am afraid).  This common belief is the result of how easy it has been made to achieve this particular task within the development environment, its easy – really easy, so it must be the right way right? NO – there are so many things wrong with this idealism.

Number one: If you need a web service that is going to be hit a few times an hour then perhaps this approach is fine but if you are trying to build a web service that will be efficient and consume the least amount of system resources so you can get a high and sustained transactional throughput then managed code is not the way to go – not unless you are hell-bent on keeping the Dell or Sun server ecosystem fed with new customers, and air conditioners all over the world burning resources and cash.

Number two:  SOAP is the standard that has become synonymous with Web Services for many .NET developers, yet more companies that have demonstrable experience delivering high quality web services API’s to the web on a global scale choose to use almost anything but SOAP. Why? Well SOAP is simply not the one-size-fits-all answer – sorry SOAP lovers… SOAP has some good ideas but is generally badly conceived. It’s complicated with over 40 pages of specification, some of which is almost nonsense, its overweight and is often only used in a context where the very basic need of an RPC, that is, send a request to a server and get a response – the overhead of SOAP in this case can be significant.  There are many alternatives to SOAP that are in common use today that process more efficiently, are more browser friendly, simpler to understand, implement and document across numerous server, desktop and mobile platforms – the problem with these alternatives is there is not a “make me one” button in the IDE so SOAP seems to win out amongst the SMB/Point solution application developers.

Number three: IMHO any use of the .NET stack should be more prevalent at the front end and less-prevalent and ideally non-existent at the back end. I personally like the idea that for a server, every CPU clock cycle possible works towards servicing the users request, that means less software layers, less runtime compensation for bad programming practices and better quality, well designed and well implemented code executing as close to the machine-level as possible.   This I know can be thought of as a rather old-fashioned perspective but in a perverse and somewhat gratifying way, as green computing becomes ever more important to us, this will be the only way to write code that will run in our future data centres – I am pretty sure that programmers that don’t have the capability to think, design and develop in this way will find themselves quickly outmoded as less layers, better software design and more efficient use of computing resources becomes a necessity.  Developers happy to live 20 layers above the CPU will find themselves as outdated as they think I am today for caring about how many CPU cycles it takes to service a request! By the same token, I don’t believe that a “managed code” runtime and do it quick buttons in an IDE turn great desktop application developers into application server guru’s

Well my rant is done; I am not sure I answered the question in a succinct way but in summary, while I think there is a place for .NET for as long as Windows exists on the desktop, I don’t think it’s for the big servers of our future.  As long as .NET continues to be positioned as a viable server technology with the IDE and tooling that can make almost anyone a .NET developer, we can only expect the continuing trend of *NIX operating systems to continue to serve the ever increasing numbers of web services and applications we use, relegating .NET and the often poorly implemented .NET business applications to the point and SMB niche products and solutions.

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  1. Hey Gerry, it’s me again! I work on .NET on a daily basis, developing large web-based business or so-called ‘enterprise’ applications. I love C#, but it is a love-hate relationship because the WISC stack is really painful in a lot of ways. We have a saying in my country, that badly translated would be: “If you burn yourself with milk, you will cry when seeing a cow”, so If I had to start a project of this size (almost 0.8 MLOC) I will stay away from it for sure!

    However, about the reasons software gets rotten and full of bugs, there is one that leaves everything else “on the noise”, and that is BAD CODE. And bad code is the only truly “platform independent” thing, if you know what I mean. Most developers still put the database and database model in the center of their application. The database should be just an implementation detail, easily swappable for something else. RDBMSs became evil money crunching machines, black boxes full of magic that promised to do miracles, and those horribly coupled patterns you’ve mentioned are promoted by RDBMS vendors… evil.

    To write a windows desktop app, and specially if it is windows-only, .NET is probably the best option right now, but it heavily depend on other non-functional requirements. If it also has to work on Linux and Mac, I would even consider Mono (or a mono/.NET shared codebase), as long as you keep away from the Mono implementation of MS database access frameworks, it is a mature platform.

    I am… was… more of a hardware guy, writting assembler and then C for PIC, and so on, so I share a lot of your vision. While I had some experience earlier, the past 3 years or so I got into serious enterprise software development and architecture, and there are many books that completely changed the way I think about software developent (both the process and the product), I have a list of the most important ones in my blog.

    PD: Spent the whole weekend reading your blog! 🙂


    1. Hi Ivan,

      Yes BAD CODE is evil and there is a lot of it created. I am no .NET fan but I do agree for a Windows target you are limited in choice and .NET is about as good as it gets. A couple of my team worked on a Windows desktop application which we moved away from C++/MFC (which is seriously evil) to .NET which while has been a successful project it was also painfully slow to create GOOD CODE, in this example .NET did not deliver any of the dream elements it claims to and results were passable but not outstanding. I have since worked on a project using C++/Qt which is currently parked, but given the choice I would choose C++/Qt over .NET hands down, not only is it cross platform but its a pleasing development experience and GOOD CODE is relatively easy to create. Of course its not perfect and I happen to be a C++ fanboy so I would of course pitch that way. The main server projects I work on at work are written in C++ proper, there is much good and some bad code but overall a nice code base, and that getting on for 1M lines of code including unit tests and so on. I like C++ because its specific – and if you know what you are doing your code can be very specific and therefore efficient. Relinquishing responsibility of memory management to a generic implementation always feels wrong to me and I certainly don;t subscribe to the “its OK because moors law is still alive and well” approach to software development which seems to be so prevalent today – I do actually care about efficient use of bytes and CPU cycles, even in large scale software applications – something that most developers seem to almost be unaware of – let alone care about. OMG here I go again ranting….I must stop now :_)

      Sorry to have wasted your entire weekend. Thanks for reading the blog


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